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Posted by Kath Morrison on 11/07/2017   Email

What a great site. I lived in Arthur Street from 71 to 82 but mum and dad Julia and Amby Egan were there till 2015. Love looking at how the area was and what changes were made. Great days playing on the pit heap and the wharry during school holidays. Must see if I have any old photos.


Posted by Dave Gouch on 06/06/2017

Has anyone got any photos of the Whitburn Home Guard during WW2 - or any pics of the wooden barracks or fields trenches on the Rifle Range?


Posted by Lloyd on 26/04/2017   Email

Thank you for a Tyme Trip down Memory lane of Marsden and a view of Marsden Whitburn to day A well preserved piece of in sight history. The memories of walking them later riding a bike around the area have been revived to go into an autobiography which brings to mind a car break down ona wet March night by the gates to the colliery. Will now look forward to a regular viewing of the site.


Posted by Craig F Cunningham on 01/03/2017   Email

Lovely site,brings back a good few memories.Its strange to see yourself on a website photograph from the late 60s.i.e.Whitburn Workshop fitters.Good times,great apprenticeship.I remember a few of the lads in the picture and will come back on that. Regards craig


Posted by Kathleen Wilcox on 18/02/2017   Email

I have just read your account if marsden hall. My mother worked as a cleaner fir a number of years in the 1960s when the Hall was used as NCB offices. I used to go with her sometimes on an evening and sit and do my homework in one of the huge rooms. I remember being scared of the attics as there were rumours of them being haunted.


Posted by John L Dickinson on 09/01/2017   Email

Just came across the site and has given me much pleasure, with many memories from stories told by my family and things that I can remember. Some familiar names mentioned which moved on to Westoe and my short time at that pit. My family mainly came from Whitburn with my great grandfather being involved with the sinking of the shaft and an under-manager. Very enjoyable read.


Posted by Harry Todd on 14/11/2016

Marvelous site. Keeping a live Marsden's proud industrial and social past. If not for sites like yours this heritage would be lost for ever. Keep up the good work.


Posted by Ernie Henderson on 07/10/2016   Email

Love this group I keep popping in to see what's new4-231


Posted by Lynda Jones on 11/09/2016   Email

Lynda Jones nee Welsh Just spent last two hours reading the Marsden Banner group loved it. My claim to fame was one of the last passengers on the rattler in my prom with my mam. Remember the wharry with all the kids from the colliery Peter Brennan would tell everyone that he saved me from drowning but always forgot to mention he threw me in first.My dad was an overman at Whitburn until it closed then went to Boldon until it closed. Sadly he is no longer with us but he would have loved all this history. Thanks for a lovely reminiscing couple of hours.


Posted by Stan Godfrey on 11/04/2016   Email

Fabulous site. My dad, Tommy Godfrey, worked at Whitburn pit then Monkwearmouth when it closed. Memories of going into the pit head canteen on Fridays during school holidays when our dad would slice a Mars Bar for the three of us to share. Even did it for my own kids. Saw Derek Wilson's name on the site. If it's the person I think he is, he was head and shoulders above us at football...left winger?..... His grandad was our caretaker at Marsdem Junior mixed. He had played in the famous Portsmouth team. I once found a medal on the field and handed it to him. In my memory, probably distorted, it was a cup winner's medal. It was tiny but then I had Ron Guthrie 's medal from 1973 for a day and it too was so small for something so momentous. Jacky was nicer to me after that. I lent the school some stalactites my dad brought up from the pit. Never quite had the courage to ask for them back. My friend Michael Murphy, the lighthouse keeper 's son, donated a massive bulb, now on sho


Posted by Ted Prince on 01/04/2016

Very interesting reading spot on lads


Posted by Cecilia Chapman ( nee Graham ) on 09/02/2016   Email

Brilliant site ! So many childhood memories stirred ! I lived at No 2 Mill lane Whitburn colliery in the officials houses my father was Victor Graham ( little Vic ) who was the SRN at the colliery medical centre and basically ran a little first aid office out of the back kitchen for the local residents and even their pets on occasion !


Posted by Colin Bayfield on 04/02/2016   Email

Many thanks for this brilliant website! Peters account of his life at work really moved me an brought a tear when read a mention of my father Albert Bayfield. He made it to Unit Electrical Engineer and was there till the pit closed. We lived at 1, South View and I have many happy memories between the age of 6 to 1 4ish. I remember dads colleagues Bill McDermait and Willy Wilson. Dad moved on to Bolden Coll and when that closed became Area Electrical Engineer based at Team Valley. Would love to here from anybody that knew Albert. Again well done, a terrific web site, it brings back so many fond memories. Colin (62) living in East Kilbride, Scotland


Posted by bernard kane on 01/02/2016   Email

exellent, keep up the good work,gf peter kane lived arther st c1910, also john j son


Posted by Aldo Del-Greco on 22/01/2016

Hi. What a fantastic website. Between 1965 and 1972 my brothers and I used to go past Marsden village and colliery on the Economic buses on our way to school in Sunderland. I remember the changes to this area over those years as bit by bit the houses, pit and railway gradually disappeared from the landscape. Several buildings on the west side of the coast road survived long after (remember the Purple Onion?) until they too were demolished. I lived in the Kingsway from 1954 until 1983 and remember well the steam (and later diesel) trains hauling NCB hopper wagons full of coal from Whitburn colliery past the bottom of the garden on their way to Westoe colliery. Sometime in the early 1960s an attractive young teacher called Mrs Cauwood started teaching at St Bedes primary school in Derby street. Was she related to the Marsden Cauwoods? I regularly visit the area and am dismayed at how little of the region's industrial heritage survives. So well done Marsden Banner Group for your website.


Posted by Allan Davenport on 15/01/2016   Email

Thank you for a a great site, but also for providing a wonderful piece of family history. The lady referred to in the piece about the Unfortunate Marsden Lad, L C William Cooper Brown, and named as Elizabeth Ann Dickinson, was my Grandmother. Elizabeth married Herbert Davenport , 25 December, 1920. My father, Kenneth Davenport , was born 19 June, 1922. Gran moved to Marlborough Street, In Shields , with her sister, Hannah Brown living in the flat below. I knew of the Whitburn connections, but had never known of the link to Marsden Grotto. Many thanks for this information.


Posted by ian robertson on 10/11/2015   Email

I am a retired mining surveyor, and once worked at the Crystal palace, when the NCB drilling rig was drilling for coal. I am a member of Harton & Westoe Banner Group, and we have a collection of photographs from the late George Atkinson, who wrote a short history of St Hilda Colliery. I have also added Templetown Colliery history to this . I wondered if we could meet up to discuss extending your first class site to include all of the collieries in South Tyneside. I have quite a number of photographs you may be interested in.


Posted by Brian Orrock on 15/10/2015   Email

Derek, was great to catch up today and so many thanks to introduce to this web site, on reading this it brings back so may memories of our youth fishing and the Wherry or the Wharry as we new it, your art work is fantastic and look forward to reading more on the site, you should mention the times we had at the garage and your go cart in the back garden. Do you remember the scrap we had in the rec, i do because i lost as you were much stronger than me, hee hee


Posted by caroline on 24/09/2015   Email

I work in the Local Studies library in South Shields and love this site. So much hard work has been put into it and I tell the staff to use it as a valuable resource. Brilliant


Posted by George Whitehead on 23/09/2015   Email

This is a great site since my last corespondence I have hat contact from my old friend from when I was a young boy also neighbour frame where I used to live and we have exchanged a few emails recalling old times .I wonder if anyone knows the whereabouts of a Linda Sharpe (Sharpe) being her maiden name ,who lived in the houses on marsden view in the late 50s she moved from there to Arthur street which was situated in the houses opposite from where Whitburn pit used to be. Any news about her would be really appreciated as my sister Ann would love to make contact with her


Posted by George whitehead on 15/09/2015   Email

message for John Davidson John I am in Portugal at the moment soon as I get back I will be in touch this server won't let me send emails


Posted by John Davison on 14/09/2015   Email

reading the message from geordie whitehead,did try to contact via email but failed.If Geordie is reading this can you contact the banner sect and get my email add.Would be great to talk after some 50+ years.fingers crossed


Posted by dougie miller on 05/09/2015

fantastic site,in addition to derek wilsons fishing tips i would use jam jar tops with the snood passed thro! then dug into the sand at low tide at seaburn had to be first back at next low tide to collect the catch!


Posted by Bob Moreton on 26/08/2015   Email

Reading through your site has been magic taking me back to when I was a bairn and staying with my Uncle Jack & Aunty Florrie Souter in Hilton St in the 50s The picture of jack Souter and friends in a boat off the wharry the fellow to the left of uncle jack is his brother in law my father Perce Moreton worked for a while at Harton colliery then we moved out to Pelton Fell the chap on Jacks right is Roy Pretty his son in law and the little shrimp sat in front of Roy is me Great work


Posted by Paul mckenzie on 15/07/2015   Email

My father is Malcolm Mckenzie son of Annie cauwood It's been great reading your article about our family My dad has the what I believe to be the original photo of the cauwood boys with there parents that was in the Salmon hall article Just wanted to say hi and will look forward to reading more Kindest regards Paul Mckenzie From Poole in Dorset


Posted by Jane Sheldon on 19/05/2015

Tremendous! I have spent the last 2 days reading and absorbing this wonderful website. Being keen on the social history of the North East I can only appreciate the amount of time it must have taken putting this site together. I was unaware of this villages existence until coming across your site. Thank you. If it was not like groups like yourselves these aspects of our social history would be lost forever. I will keep on visiting from time to time hoping you will continue to expand your site. Thank you again for a wonderful read.


Posted by Janet Gwynn was hall on 16/05/2015

My email doesn't work at this stage . My dad Peter hall worked Whitburn colliery and we lived at 10 mill lane Whitburn


Posted by Josie Mortimer on 12/04/2015

Just found this site My Grandad played for Marsden Colliery Band when they won the 1000 guinea trophy


Posted by Carol Edwardson on 09/04/2015   Email

My mother's family (Shewan) were very much involved in the mining industry and my father retired from the workshops at Whitburn in the 60's. I am researching the family trees of both sides of our families and appreciate the rich, social history of which we are so proud. An excellent, informative site. Thank you.


Posted by George Whitehead on 05/04/2015   Email

This is a great site I have stumbled upon and brings back loads of memories. I lived at 4 marsden view more or less across from the junior school from 1953 till 1962. My dad worked at the pit just down the road. I used to pal about with Ken Brennen William John Davidson John and Paul Rose. Best days of my life we had nowt but happy as pigs in muck. My dad moved us away to a place. called Biddulph in Stoke and worked the pit there I was 12 when we moved I am now 64 and would move back ther in a heartbeat if circumstances would allow


Posted by Stephen Morris on 02/04/2015   Email

Local history at it's best.


Posted by Colin Henry on 26/02/2015   Email

Congratulations on you very informative site, which I found through a Gazette article. I lived in Horsley Hill until I was about 17, in 1954, when I emigrated to Tasmania, Australia, where I still live. I was fascinated to learn there was a small village near Manhaven Bay. In the late 1940s and 50s we played at that beach, which we knew as Fishermens Bay and other coves along to Frenchmans Bay. We never realised there had been a settlement there. To reach the beaches we crossed the Marsden Rattler line, played in Marsden Cottage railway station and walked through farmers fields, sown with potatoes and turnips (snadgies). I still regularly visit the UK and South Shields and find it sad that so much has disappeared. One example is the Velvet Beds Beach entry which in my day had a cafe, ice cream kiosk and a place to hire tents and deck chairs. Last time I saw it the area was a ruin. As a retired journalist I appreciate the work that has gone into the site and thank those responsible.


Posted by Sue Blackwell on 15/02/2015

This site gets better every time I visit.


Posted by Paul Smithson on 08/02/2015

Thanks for that Brian.It's about time the National Trust got their facts right and stop messing with our heritage. I will try and speak to someone at the lighthouse and put them right.Also I think in my young days I was told about Kitty Burn any more info?


Posted by Brian Cauwood on 04/02/2015   Email

In reply to the previous post by Paul Smithson: Hi Paul thank you for your comment. Roland Tuner (13/09/2014) also made a similar comment about the Wharry on this page. You will not find the name the Wharry or Wherry on any map, as the correct name for the cove is Harbour Quarry. However the locals have always called it the 'Wharry'. The earliest written record I can find is from the Sunderland Echo April 1934 reporting on the tragic drowning of Kitty Burn and her cousin Doris. The paper writes 'the beach at Whitburn colliery is known as the Wharry'. I like you have never heard it called the Wherry until recently. Local research would suggest that the name change possible emanated from the National Trust following its takeover of Souter point lighthouse in 1990. Although we can't be sure of this, they do use the term 'The Wherry' We will amend this website to ensure where possible and in line with our heritage the name of the Wharry is retained. Hope this helps. Brian.


Posted by Paul Smithson on 04/02/2015

Hello, can anybody tell me when the Wharry became the Wherry? I am a 84 year old and have lived in the area all my life and have never heard it called the Wherry before.


Posted by John Stone on 03/02/2015

Great website, an enjoyable read.


Posted by peter watson on 02/02/2015   Email

Hi, Just came across your website. A really good read even if you don't come from the area like me. I now feel I should visit the area.A cracking website keep up keeping the past and the heritage alive.


Posted by Graeme Bell on 10/01/2015

love this site , old memories , class


Posted by David. Burdsall on 28/12/2014   Email

Hi just found your website looks good . I have been around in Whitburn and Marsden all my life on the beach in boats fishing ect. now I work on the river at Sunderland so never far from the sea . Good to see the pictures of the Wherry bridge. Never forget Chester and Davy good people I ended up fishing at the bents for a few years. If anyone remembers my Grandad he was the village Bobby at the colliery John Bell. Jock I think he went by. Thanks for putting this together . Davy Burdsall


Posted by brian turner on 22/11/2014

great reading all your storys my father used to tell me lots of these his name was paddy turner.he has been ment5ioned in one or two of the storys


Posted by Stanley O'Toole on 11/11/2014

Hi, great website you have got yourselves. I don't belong the area but I have enjoyed reading about it. Fascinating history for a short piece of coastline. All the best for your future endeavors. Stanley


Posted by Betty Walker (nee Gill) on 10/10/2014   Email

What a fascinating website. Well done. I was born in Arthur Street in 1938. My Dad , Jim Gill was a weighman/check weighman at the colliery and his brother Tom Gill worked in the Coal Board offices. My uncles, Bob Gill and Percy Errington both worked at the coal face. I used to go to Marsden School and always remember the miners having their break sitting along the railings at the baths. I used to dread anyone speaking to me because I would not have recognised them with their coal dust blackened faces and helmets - they all looked the same! Dad died in 1943 and Mum (Cissy Mills) Grandma Mills and I moved to Essex in 1946. The prospects for work for Mum were greater in London. I used to return for school holidays and stayed with the Gills in Fern Avenue. Happy memories.


Posted by Paulline Marshall nee Wilkinson on 22/09/2014

What a fantastic site.I have been showing my dad Frank Wilkinson most of the sections and we were surprised to see a picture of my mam her sister and my granddad after a visit down the pit.My dad was born at Marsden and worked as an electrician from 1942-1968.I also rember such things as the bridge being blown up.My dad is now on a mission to getout his photos again as they have been used in the past for village displays.It is great that people have gone to such lengths to put the history together.


Posted by marcelle curry (nee oley ) on 13/09/2014   Email

Absolutely loved reading about salmons hall where my great aunt Hannah (Oley) lived . I remember going to visit her with my aunt annie .


Posted by Ronald Turner on 13/09/2014   Email

What a great website, brought a lot of memories back, I was born at 7 Marsden view, next to dereck Wilson's garage in 1948, moving to Arthur street when I was 5 years old, a lot of the names mentioned I remember, other families from Marsden I remember were the ramseys, Pringles, Patterson. I played down the old miners welfare ground and learned to swim at the wharry as we called it not the wherry. There was a pond at the bottom of the pit heap next to the wharry that we used to go rafting on. There was a shop opposite the co-op called Cowans, I delivered newspapers from there, happy days sliding down the pit heap on a piece of conveyer belt, helping the fishermen pull there boats up the beach after a catch and being rewarded with a couple of crabs or a few mackerel.


Posted by Andrew Waring on 22/08/2014   Email

What a fantastic website. I have spent many hours trawling through each and every section and it has been very interesting to read and learn things about Whitburn/Marsden of old and very humbling to read about and see the photos of my mam's(Jean Cauwood) side of our family. Those mentioned like my grandfather, Walter, Aunty Anne and great nana Ada all of whom I knew and loved dearly might be long gone but never will they be forgotten. Every time I take the dog for a walk now I will see things (that are not there anymore) in a completely different light! Thank-you to all concerned and please keep up the excellent work......


Posted by Bob Lowery on 29/07/2014   Email

Only one word excellent


Posted by Mark Routledge on 27/06/2014

Absolutely fascinating. My mother was born in Whitburn in the 1920's and lived there & Marsden Village with her sisters and brothers. My Grandad was down Marsden Pit for many years after WW1. My mother will love all of the old pictures and stories. Thanks and well done.


Posted by colin hood on 11/06/2014

fantastic read,loads off information and photos I remember from my childhood, especially the photo of Lindsay street where im told by my mam that I was the last person to be born before it was demolished


Posted by Graeme Bell on 06/06/2014   Email

excellent site , keep up the good work


Posted by kevin duffy on 05/06/2014   Email

what a really good read , sat and read peter webbers page and the amount of people and names i knew were amazing, family members mentioned from Marsden Village and the likes.If this was in book form it would be Excellent for the older people to read like my mother Joan Liddel Marsden village name and related to the Robinsons another name that cropped up on Peters page,well done


Posted by John Coatsworth on 24/05/2014   Email

Excellent. My great aunt, Miss Tones, taught at the Marsden School in the 1920's or 1930's before moving onto the Cleadon Village School. I remember stories of her travelling on The Rattler. I have the clock presented to her in 1953 when she retired from Cleadon Village school. She died in 1965 or 1966 when I was a boy. Does anyone recall her teaching at Marsden.


Posted by Jon Warren on 23/05/2014   Email

Excellent site Will the banner be going to the Gala?


Posted by John Simmonds on 10/05/2014   Email

I have just spent a most engrossing couple of hours reading Peter Webber's page which I came across completely by accident while seaching for something else. Thanks to all concerned for this wonderful site.


Posted by Alan Wingrove on 09/05/2014

I have recently discovered this site after doing some investigation work on my family tree. The family on my mothers side comes from Marsden. The family lived on North Street and Hilton Street, my great grandfather was (according to his death certificate) an Engine Man (Electic lighting) at Marsden Colliery. I would be pleased if anyone out there can shed any light on what his job was...I have been told he could have been working on the Marsden Rattler or he could have worked the winding engine at the colliery. Unfortunately tragedy befell the family in Dec 1911 when he died. His name was George Kellett, his wife died before him leaving a number of children. Having been to Whitburn I have located the family grave in the cemetery on Mill Lane, I have also seen that where North Street was is now probably at the bottom of the cliff. I find the pictures on this site really interesting as I can see that it must have been a hard life living in Marsden....yet they show a commun


Posted by caroline oates on 03/05/2014   Email

Great site. My Granda C.J.'Kit' Oates worked at Marsden & my dad Alan Oates grew up in Whitburn. Re the WW1 Zeppelins, dad says granda told him a Zeppelin passed over their training ground at Cleadon hills & they tried to dig pits deep enough to get angle right for field artillery to hit it, but it got away


Posted by Mary Wheatley on 01/05/2014   Email

I was interested to see the email from Diane Wilson referring to her great grandparents Hannah and Arthur Cauwood. Diane is obviously a relative of ours (one of many I would imagine unknown to me and my sisters June and Eileen), as our mother was Janet Cauwood, one of the 4 daughters of Hannah and Arthur. Janet was the twin of John and came down south to find work in the depression around 1926. Although she lived the rest of her life in Surrey, she always yearned for South Shields and never stopped talking about Salmons Hall. We often came up to see her beloved brothers, and indeed we came in 1944 and stayed for 3 months when granny Hannah died. We do have some snaps of some of the uncles, (I believe including Oliver). We love your website, and we know mum would have loved it too. Keep up the good work. Mary Wheatley.


Posted by Mrs E Johnson on 15/04/2014   Email

What a wonderful website. I was brought up in Marsden village and loved my childhood living there. To be able read about and see all these amazing photographs of times past is very emotional. Although I have lived in South Yorkshire for many years I feel closer to my roots now than I have for many a year. Thank you for putting this website together you should be proud for yourselves. Best wishes Mrs Johnson


Posted by Dave Gouch on 07/04/2014   Email

I've posted the first pics on the new public gallery. Can anyone identify the mystery men? Drop me a line if you have any information.


Posted by Bob Freeman on 30/03/2014   Email

Fantastic website,I still have vivid memories of the area in the mid sixties early seventies. Well done to all who contributed to putting this site together. Top Job


Posted by Patricia Turnbull on 17/03/2014

I've really enjoyed reading about the history and looking at the old pictures of our area. I walk the Coastal path from Marsden over to The Wherry and Whitburn Village often. I will see it all in a new light after reading this. Thank you


Posted by Robert Lewis Johnson on 02/03/2014   Email

My name is Robert Lewis Johnson. One of the people you have listed on your Memorial page is Francis Burdett Johnson. Francis is my Great Grand Father. My Grand Father Henry Thomas worked at the Marsden Colliery as joiner. He and his family came to Australia in 1930 to Broken Hill New South Wales, a large Mining Town. After graduating from University I worked in the mining industry as an mechanical engineer. Then for the last 18 years until my retirement I worked as a mines inspector investigating accidents similar to my Great Grand Fathers many years ago. Regards Robert


Posted by Billy Stewart on 01/03/2014   Email

Derek and Brian Good work lads in what you are doing in keeping alive our coastal heritage. Another generation and these memories could have been lost forever. I knew both your dad's from fishing. Canny blokes and good crack both of them. Keep up the good work and I look forward reading any updates. Billy Stewart


Posted by diane wilson on 28/02/2014

looking at one of the salmon's hall photos I recognized arthur and hannah cauwood, my grandfather oliver's parents, I have an old photo of them at home which includes think annie, their daughter. It was lovely to find this photo on website as I don't have any of my grandfather as a young man.


Posted by Ian Powell on 21/02/2014

Very interesting site. My Mothers family all worked at the Pit,they were called Wilkinson and lived in Henry St.My grandfather Thomas Wilkinson died as a result of injureies received at the Pit.My Grandmother remarried another miner at Whitburn, George Stephenson.


Posted by Jim Coxon on 05/02/2014   Email

I am finding the site very interesting and relevant to my current research project. I am particularly interested in the idea the miner and mining communities had special qualities not found in other industries. The amount of interest in local history and heritage in the North East seems to support this hypothesis. I would appreciate any more stories such as those on this site or any opinions on the idea that I have mentioned above.


Posted by Robert Arthur on 15/01/2014   Email

Found this site to be very interesting


Posted by Judith Gill on 04/01/2014   Email

Great site. My Grandfather worked at Whitburn Pit. Used to ride the Marsden rattler with my father to go and meet him about 1958?


Posted by Bill Ellwood on 23/12/2013   Email

Hi Guys That really brought back a lot memories. I remember lots of the lads that Peter has mentioned in his Blog. I also worked with Peters father. The one thing that I miss from those good old days was the sense of community spirit. We worked hard but had a laugh as we never knew if our time would be up. Some of the tricks that we got unto at work was really unbelievable when you think about it in todays Health & Safety culture. Many thanks for an enjoyable read. Bill


Posted by graham slesser on 14/12/2013   Email

what a brilliant website you have here,loved looking through it,and will keep popping in and looking again and again


Posted by Jeff Turner on 12/12/2013

a fantastic site both informative and humourous in throughout. many thanks to Derek Wilson for putting me on to it. my grandparents my father my uncles and aunt lived for a time in north street i believe. my grandfather thomas william (tot) turner. my Father and some of his brothers worked at whitburn pit. my father also worked for a time in the marsden quarry. my uncle Tot i believe was the baths superintendant in the latter years of the collieries life i myself worked for twelve years at westoe colliery up until its closure so the pit banter ive read about on this site has rekindled many a fond memory along with memories from my childhood days spent swimming at the wherry or crabbing with my hook, mind you me dar would never show me where the best holes were.


Posted by Peter Webber on 16/11/2013   Email

Served my time as a fitter at Whitburn, transfered to Westoe when pit closed.My late father was a bellman at Whitburn.


Posted by George Kane on 22/10/2013   Email

An every informative website about a part of the coastline I love. It's nice to see our history been kept alive and not forgotten. Keep up the good work and good luck with the banner project. Hopefully I will still be around to see the banner displayed again. George K


Posted by Ray Cauwood on 18/10/2013   Email

This site is wonderful it tells me things about the Cauwood family I always wanted to know. I have re-found my family and my roots, I will be back (home) as often as I can, we have a motorhome so it's not so far from Manchester 140 miles, and 3 hours up the A1,,, I have very fond and happy memories of holidays during school holidays,,,,